Pubs North London Derelict London

<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0> <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr> <td valign="top" colspan=2 height=90 BGCOLOR="#006699" TEXT="#080000" background="005fd5a3.jpg"> <div> <B>  </B><B> </B><FONT SIZE="6" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold" ><B>www.derelictlondon.com</B></FONT><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#FFFFFF" FACE="Arial" ><B><IMG SRC="02c5d430.jpg" border=0 width="93" height="67" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></FONT></div> <bR> <div> </div> </td> </tr><tr> <td valign="top" width=50 BGCOLOR="#FFCC66" TEXT="#080000" background="006d2b03.jpg"> <bR> </td> <td valign="top" height=390 BGCOLOR="#C0C0C0" TEXT="#080000"> <bR> <div> <B>Derelict London Pubs - North</B></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="30293b920.jpg" border=0 width="571" height="402" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>Camden Town (Canaervon Castle aka Fusilier & Firkin)</B></div> <div> I have many good memories of this pub. It was one of the few pubs that had bands on a Saturday afternoon and </div> <div> with free admission it was always quite busy with tourists and shoppers. Over the years it changed name from </div> <div> the Canaervon Castle to the Fusilier & Firkin and then back to the Canaervon Castle and then briefly had a big </div> <div> makeover and renamed the Camden Rock Cafe. Then allmost overnight it turned into a clothes shop until burning </div> <div> down in the Great Fire of Camden in early 2008.</div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1515.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><I><IMG SRC="28824ffb0.jpg" border=0 width="335" height="251" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></I></U></A><I> </I><A HREF="id1515.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><I><IMG SRC="2884e7fa0.jpg" border=0 width="231" height="250" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></I></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham White Hart Lane N17 (The Railway Tavern)</B></div> <div> CB writes: "This is a real shame this pub closed down. It was a fairly big pub with a few pool tables, situated </div> <div> right next to White Hart Lane train station. Packed out on match days but again not very busy during the week.</div> <div> I used to live just round the corner from it in Durban Road and remember getting so drunk in there one night </div> <div> I could hardly stand up, and had severe difficulty in getting out of the pub"</div> <bR> <div> <B><IMG SRC="2bbb2ce10.jpg" border=0 width="300" height="225" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <div> <B>Camden NW1 (Black Horse)</B></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1510.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Edmonton Tudor Inn, Three Crowns N Woolw"><U><IMG SRC="271b20ff0.jpg" border=0 width="288" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Edmonton N9 - Tudor Inn (previously The Horse and Groom)</B></div> <div> C B writes:<I> "It had a reputation for under age drinkers during the 1980s and the joke was that they used to take their homework</I></div> <div> <I>there in the evenings. There was a disco there most saturday nights but was also frequented by posers and dolly birds which </I></div> <div> <I>being a skinhead used to rule me out of going there!"</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1515.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><IMG SRC="28801bf60.jpg" border=0 width="283" height="246" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Edmonton Green N9 (The Exhibition)</B></div> <div>  The pub sign remains inside Edmonton Green market. The pub itself is now a shop.</div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1515.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><I><IMG SRC="287c1bd40.jpg" border=0 width="283" height="212" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></I></U></A></div> <div> <B>Edmonton N9 (The Steps)</B></div> <div> Was used by squatters when closed, was also known as Kelly's Steps before it was  named The Steps.</div> <div> CB writes:<I> "The Steps in Lower Edmonton was a bit of a loud pub which had a band at the week ends. I </I></div> <div> <I>remember one night in there a bloke offered the band 100 if  they would play"American Pie" by Don McLean.</I></div> <div> <I>He went to get the money out  off his pocket and promptly threw up over himself. Hilarious, like something  </I></div> <div> <I>out of Little Britain! Was a bit of a locals pub and had its regular crowd of herberts."</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1515.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="287e1ceb0.jpg" border=0 width="284" height="235" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17 (Red Lion)</B></div> <div> CB writes:<I> "I used to go to school with a bloke who's parents ran this pub. It was a fairly quiet pub which did most of its </I></div> <div> <I>business during Tottenham Hotspur match days. There was a nice picture of the Queen Mother presenting the Irish </I></div> <div> <I>Guards with shamrocks behind the bar, I think the Irish bar man was in the Irish Guards at some point."</I></div> <div> Nov 07 - sign attached - acquirred by a builders merchant </div> <bR> <div> <B><IMG SRC="2bb72ce10.jpg" border=0 width="300" height="225" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17 (The Cockerel)</B></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id872.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="21cc2bf10.jpg" border=0 width="299" height="241" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>De Beauvoir Town N1 ("The Trafalgar - more commonly known locally as "The Traff")</B></div> <div> Ravey Davey writes<I><B> </B></I><I>"If I'm right the last owner bought it with insurance money he got when his wife was murdered by the </I></div> <div> <I>yorkshire ripper. It was his dream and he loved it dearly. Sometime in the early 90s though he ended up owing serious £££</I></div> <div> <I>to some gangsters who forced him to close. A friend of mine ended up squatting it in the lat 90s. When the owner found out </I></div> <div> <I>he enlisted the squatters to help him reopen it as a late night bar. Totally illegal of course, but the police didn't care - it was </I></div> <div> <I>Hackney after all"</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id679.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="239e2bbc0.jpg" border=0 width="299" height="188" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Kings Cross N1 (Shaws)</B></div> <div> It was originally a car repair shop, but the owner decided to make more money by converting it into a bar as there were two </div> <div> very tall office buildings next door. The nearby office space was taken up by NatWest before they were taken over by Royal</div> <div> Bank of Scotland, and loads of the staff used to go in a drink there. Some of the best nights in there were probably football </div> <div> nights, especially during the European Championships help in England. The bar manager had to get two extra tv's in so that</div> <div> everybody in there could see a screen. Memorable nights, but when RBS moved all the staff out, that was the end for Shaws.</div> <bR> <div> Shayne from Sidney used to live in a flat above this pub:<I> "The pub itself was surreal - well maintained but usually very empty </I></div> <div> <I>with the exception of a few local die-hards. The publican used to go to the effort though, a few weekend nights he would play</I></div> <div> <I>some cheesy pop music and have those lousy traffic light style disco lights flashing - but to no avail it seems. </I></div> <div> <I>The times I was in there though it was pleasant enough - the staff were always happy to have someone to serve and its a bit </I></div> <div> <I>of a shame to see  it close down really - perhaps in hindsight I should have gone there more often."</I></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="tottenham_connaught_tavern.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham Connaught Tavern"><U><IMG SRC="23e23ad70.jpg" border=0 width="314" height="215" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  </U></A><A HREF="tottenham_connaught_tavern.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham Connaught Tavern"><U><B><IMG SRC="23e515da0.jpg" border=0 width="277" height="218" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17 - Connaught Tavern</B></div> <div> Nov 07 - Demolished flats being built on the site</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="tottenham_prince_of_wales__rose_and_crown.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham Prince of Wales, Rose and Crow"><U><IMG SRC="23eb24da0.jpg" border=0 width="292" height="218" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17  - Prince of Wales</B></div> <div> CB writes:<I> "if ever there was a pub with character that was it. Always good for a late one, I was in a band that atcually played </I></div> <div> <I>there a few times. It was an Irish pub and a fight was garanteed there almost every night. When I first started going out with </I></div> <div> <I>my missus we used to end up in there - read into that what you will! I remember a mate of mine was in the Army Cadets and </I></div> <div> <I>walked in there one night in an Army uniform. The band stopped playing and he had to make a hasty retreat as the Irish locals</I></div> <div> <I>were going to lynch him! The bloke who owned it was the brother of my mechanic and he was a tough Irishman who didn't take </I></div> <div> <I>any shit from anyone."</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1508.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham Pleasure Rooms New Southgate F"><U><B><IMG SRC="23e92fdc0.jpg" border=0 width="303" height="220" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17 - Pleasure Rooms</B></div> <div> CB writes: <I>"I remember a recent World Cup was watched in there by me and a mate. What a night that was! Strippers the lot </I></div> <div> <I>and they weren't shy either! Let's just say I won't forget that night in a long while! Now closed down as it was owned by some </I></div> <div> <I>shady characters. My mate used to DJ there and I think some kid died after taking an E there one night."</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="tottenham_prince_of_wales__rose_and_crown.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham Prince of Wales, Rose and Crow"><U><B><IMG SRC="23ed2edc0.jpg" border=0 width="302" height="220" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17 - Rose and Crown</B></div> <bR> <div> Bernie writes:<I> "The Rose and Crown in Tottenham was our local from about 1981 to 1990 it had changed managers a few </I></div> <div> <I>times, but it was a good place to be, the club at the back was called valentinos - to match with the club outside the Spurs </I></div> <div> <I>ground which was rudolphs - i worked there for a while - it was still the robert e lee - then after a while it was re named the </I></div> <div> <I>rose and crown - there is a lot of history in that particular part of tottenham - i knew kevin molloy, who was murdered in </I></div> <div> <I>Tottenham high road - he was the last manager of the rose and crown and the place is still boarded-up and there is at least </I></div> <div> <I>several hundred years of history lost there" </I><I> </I>Kevin Molloy was stabbed to death when walking down Tottenham High</div> <div> Road at 5am. This was part of a random killing spree by Daniel Gonzalez who has been branded “the most</div> <div> dangerous and unpredictable patient” ever to be held at Broadmoor maximum security hospital in Berkshire,</div> <div> where he is to serve the first part of his “whole life” sentence.Gonzalez has already attacked while on remand</div> <div> awaiting his Old Bailey trial. He has also tried to slit his veins in suicide bids and been escorted to an outside </div> <div> hospital by six armed police officers in riot gear. He showed no emotion as he was handed six life terms by </div> <div> Judge Ann Goddard, QC, after being found guilty of four murder counts and two of attempted murder.</div> <bR> <div> Jan writes: <I>" we used to go to the club at the back, being teenagers in the 60's we thought it was great, so grown up,</I></div> <div> <I> yea right. We had some good times there. There is a lot of history to that pub, and I think a lot of old customers and </I></div> <div> <I>managers come back to visit. Being in a paranormal group, We'd love to do an investigation there."</I></div> <bR> <div> Dave Eason writes: <I>"I remember this pub as the Robert E Lee with a club around the back called Charlie Browns this </I></div> <div> <I>was in the 1970s and it was a two level club so you could go upstairs and look down on the dancers or the birds tits! </I></div> <div> <I>Trouble is many people used to kick their beer glasses over the edged and start grief as the bloke who copped it on</I></div> <div> <I> the nut got angry. Great pulling place and a great mix of other nationals and we all got on great. I remember two go </I></div> <div> <I>go girls performing on the flashing tables next to the DJ who happened to be </I><I><B>Dale Winton </B></I><I>who went onto TV and stuff. </I></div> <div> <I>Bouncers were great. I was a visitrr most Fridays and Saturdays. Happy days."</I></div> <bR> <div> Nov 2007 - Demolished -  flats being built on the site</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1508.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham Pleasure Rooms New Southgate F"><U><IMG SRC="28422ddb0.jpg" border=0 width="301" height="219" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A>  </div> <div> <B>New Southgate N11 - Fenaminos</B></div> <div> Also once known as The Railway Hotel & then The Castle</div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1505.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Tottenham The Plough"><U><IMG SRC="23f320800.jpg" border=0 width="288" height="384" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Tottenham N17 - The Plough</B></div> <div> The flowers are artificial......</div> <bR> <div> CB writes: <I>I used to get in of a Friday afternoon after work. A bit intimidating if you weren't a local but used to get packed. </I></div> <div> <I>There used to be a lot of trouble in there on match days and a mate of mine was arrested after taking on a few Newcastle fans</I></div> <div> <I>- nothing to do with football I think it was over a game of pool or something. He ended up good mates with them all after they </I></div> <div> <I>were all locked up in the same cell! </I></div> <bR> <div> Bruce Morgan writes to Derelict London:</div> <div> <I>"My ancestor, George Morgan, took part in a robbery at "The Plough" in Tottenham in December 1796. Owing to his inept</I></div> <div> <I> method of disposing of the loot he was arrested at the "White Hart" and sentenced to Transportation to Australia. The trial </I></div> <div> <I>is T17970111-7 on the Old Bailey transcripts web site. Mr George Brooks was the landlord at the time. After completing his </I></div> <div> <I>sentence in Sydney, George married, had 16 children and became a respected member of his community. His story and </I></div> <div> <I>that of his descendants has been published as "A Colonial Brickmaker's family" by Paul Goard (1981). To this day none </I></div> <div> <I>of the family have been able find any trace of him prior to his arrest."</I></div> <bR> <div> Whilst this building pictured is certainly not over  200 years old its possible that its built on the site of the original Plough.</div> <div> The Plough now a Bedfred betting shop although the hanging sign remained on the betting shop until recently.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1102.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Windmill Goodge St"><U><B><IMG SRC="1e9421fd0.jpg" border=0 width="289" height="253" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Enfield  Town EN1 (Enfield Arms)</B></div> <div> Recently demolished to make-way for a new traffic system. The locals were appalled, but sadly there's nothing that could be</div> <div> done to save it.....<I>pic courtesy of Austin McNally</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="orange_tree_stonebridge.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Orange Tree Stonebridge"><U><B><IMG SRC="28401f060.jpg" border=0 width="287" height="262" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A><B> </B><A HREF="orange_tree_stonebridge.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Orange Tree Stonebridge"><U><B><IMG SRC="2841f8070.jpg" border=0 width="248" height="263" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Stonebridge NW10 (The Orange Tree)</B></div> <div> Siobhán writes:</div> <div> <I>"I grew up in the area, my primary school was opposite it. In the mid-late 1970's it was a real Irish family pub with </I></div> <div> <I>Irish bands and performers on constantly it seemed, there was always plenty of us children dancing around the </I></div> <div> <I>place after too many e-numbered red lemonade's. Out of curiosity I returned there in the mid 1990's. Surprise </I></div> <div> <I>surprise t'was not the place of my memories. In the public bar there were two TV screens, one showing sport </I></div> <div> <I>and other showing porn, this I learnt was to pacify the punters, much fighting had gone on there. The building </I></div> <div> <I>was demolished recently to make way for the ongoing regeneration of Stonebridge."</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id682.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="21cd1edf0.jpg" border=0 width="286" height="223" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A><B>  <IMG SRC="286e2be00.jpg" border=0 width="299" height="224" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <div> <B>De Beauvoir Town N1 (The Mitre)</B></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1920.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="224424ee0.jpg" border=0 width="292" height="238" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A><B> </B><A HREF="id1920.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><IMG SRC="22552ded0.jpg" border=0 width="301" height="237" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Holloway N7 (The Lamb)                                                (The Lion)</B></div> <div> Two of what were originally four pubs standing on the corners of the old cattle market. Apparently the market taverns were </div> <div> used by the slaughter men and drovers who used to drive cattle and sheep to the market there. It has also been suggested</div> <div> that cattle were brought in to the market by rail from an extension that previously existed from Kings Cross station. The other </div> <div> two pubs  were The Bull and The White Horse. The old market site is now a very large development of residential flats built </div> <div> in the 1970's. <FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#BF0000" FACE="Arial" >The Lamb reopened Dec 2006</FONT></div> <bR> <div> Bill Pearmain writes: "the London market slaughter trade move here from Smithfield at the end of the 1800's leaving</div> <div> Smithfield to deal only with carcases, my uncle Chis (or chiz) was a slaughter man and uncle Charlie played the piano for</div> <div> money in at least two of the pubs. I recently toured the area with my mum who was born across the road in the shadow of</div> <div> Pentonville and who's in her 80's, she has vivid memories of the Cows and Sheep being herded up Caledonian road from </div> <div> the specially built railway depot pens and being stored in more pens in the market where you could stoke and poke them</div> <div> through the fence. She also remembers livestock escaping to the delight of the local children and running around the area.</div> <div> Market Road appears to be a bit dodgy now with working girls on the beat but as she said nothing much changes."</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="2657fabc0.jpg" border=0 width="250" height="188" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>Kentish Town NW5 (Tally Ho!)</B></div> <div> This pub was demolished during 2007</div> <bR> <div> Jim Delaney writes:</div> <div> <I>"My mother, Lilian Delaney, was landlady of the Tally Ho from 1959 to 1973, during which time it was the best and </I></div> <div> <I>most famous Jazz pub in London, with live music 7 nights and Sunday Lunchtimes. We had a write-up in the Daily </I></div> <div> <I>Worker in 1961. Ronnie Scott used to complain that he'd paid the fares from the US for famous jazzers and there </I></div> <div> <I>they were jamming for free on Sunday lunch at the Tally Ho. After the popularity of jazz started to go down, there </I></div> <div> <I>were folk/soft-rock bands such as Kilburn and the High Road - the Tally Ho was one of the places they (and their </I></div> <div> <I>lead, Ian Dury) got their start.</I></div> <bR> <div> <I>Not long after it was taken back into management by the brewery (Watney's) and we all moved on, the large</I></div> <div> <I>Public Bar, the larger music bar, the small private bar, the off-licence and a large store-room behind the </I></div> <div> <I>off-licence were all knocked into one ridiculously-sized room, which made it more like a barn than a pub.</I></div> <div> <I><B>I never went there again, it was too depressing."</B></I></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="283f23120.jpg" border=0 width="291" height="274" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>Camden Town NW1 - York and Albany </B></div> <div> Public house and stables of c1826-7. Vacant since 1985.</div> <bR> <div> George Bradley writes:<I> "this was my local in 1982. the manager was called paul and had a CB radio behind the bar. </I></div> <div> <I>we used to chat to passing motorists (usually girls) and get them in the pub for a drink. Paul moved on and an irish </I></div> <div> <I>manager called "barny" took over. One weekend his brother came to visit from ireland and had a bet with a customer</I></div> <div> <I>he could drink a whole bottle of vodka over the period of the evening. Barny's brother decided to down the bottle as</I></div> <div> <I>fast as he could. he went upstairs to sleep it off...and never woke up. he died in his bed upstairs! pub was never the </I></div> <div> <I>same after that. it turned into a heavy rockers pub. year or so later it shut and never reopened to this day.i still live </I></div> <div> <I>down the road in albany street. i walk past it quite often and always remember how it was in the 80's.</I></div> <div> <I>This bar/hotel/ restaurant is now due to open sometime april 08 under Gordon Ramsey no less! </I></div> <div> <I>I walked past yesterday and it looks pretty plush. no furniture as yet, but the bar and decor looks gorgeous. the</I></div> <div> <I> general shape of the place looks the same as i remember from 1985 when i had my last beer in there. </I></div> <div> <I>I did notice on the window the usual papers with applications for licenses etc, so looks like the april opening on schedule. </I></div> <div> <I>Gotta say, iam looking forward to popping in for a drink once it up and running after some 23 years! "</I></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Gary Love, whose TV appearances include London's Burning, Soldier Soldier and Birds of a Feather, is converting the York </div> <div> and Albany Pub.The well located listed building is thought to be one of the first designed by <B>Georgian architect John Nash</B>,</div> <div> who was commissioned to redesign the Regent's Park area by the <B>Prince Regent</B> in 1811. The Crown Estate, which originally</div> <div> owned the building, sold the freehold for £2million to Mr Love and his business partner.They are now spending around £3.5million </div> <div> on its renovation.Mr Love said: "This is our biggest project yet and we are very excited about it. It's a great site and the history of the</div> <div> building makes it even more interesting."Despite the huge amount of modernisation that needs to be done, Mr Love plans to keep </div> <div> the original 1830s features. As well as restoring the old beams, plaster and windows, the hotel will also have working fireplaces</div> <div> throughout. Mr Love said: "The place has been left to rot but some of the original building is still here. "We want to try and keep it</div> <div> looking authentic but it has been left for so long. When we arrived we found dead pigeons who had been nesting here for 25 years."</div> <div> The new hotel,  will include 10 bedrooms with en-suite bathrooms, a large deli, bar and modern European restaurant.</div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1503.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Camden Rat and Parrot"><U><IMG SRC="283dee0e0.jpg" border=0 width="238" height="270" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A>  <A HREF="id1503.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Camden Rat and Parrot"><U><IMG SRC="283e250f0.jpg" border=0 width="293" height="271" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Camden Town NW1 (Rat and Parrot aka The Camden Stores)</B></div> <div> The Pogues shot a promo video years ago. When it was known as The Camden Stores there are tales of</div> <div> lots of fights between Irish from different counties. Any charm that the pub originally had inside was lost when it</div> <div> became the Rat & Parrot in the late 80's (?) and part of a faceless chain. During the 90's I spent most of my </div> <div> time in Camden and only visited this unremarkable pub once.</div> <bR> <div> Alfie Sykes writes:"<I>I used to drink here in the mid 80's. In my teenage years, when taking girls out to the now Odeon cinema</I></div> <div> <I>directly facing, which used to be the best fully in use art deco cinema in London, we would drink in 'The Stores' before hand.</I></div> <div> <I>I always remember one freezing December and the massive Xmas ques outside the cinema in 1985 for 'Ghostbusters'. </I></div> <div> <I>Those clever enough to purchase their tickets in advance were plotted up across the road in the pub watching the hordes </I></div> <div> <I>line up in the hope of getting in to see this Xmas 'blockbuster'.</I></div> <bR> <div> George Bradley writes:<I> I used to drink here in the 80's. a lovely pub with a function room upstairs. The scouse </I></div> <div> <I>landlady went on to take the "sussex" in st martins lane, which was unfortunately bombed by the IRA during </I></div> <div> <I>the early 90's. the stores was refurbished and rebranded as a "rat and parrot" i didnt use it much after that. </I></div> <div> <I>went past last week and it's now a large curry house..perhaps i'll pop in for a prawn korma."</I></div> <div> <I><IMG SRC="2fc1f7020.jpg" border=0 width="247" height="258" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"> <IMG SRC="2fc3e6010.jpg" border=0 width="230" height="257" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></I></div> <div> <B>now its Masala Zone</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="608" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 98 WIDTH="602"><div>                     <IMG SRC="24cf961e0.png" border=0 width="406" height="30" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>Want present day pics of your old haunts? Researching your family tree and need location pics? Pictures taken to order - low cost - any job considered (not just derelicts!). Much cheaper than professional photographers</B></div> <div> Contact: Paul at derelictlondon.com     <A HREF="mailto:derelictlondon@yahoo.co.uk" TARGET="_top" TITLE="mailto:derelictlondon@yahoo.co.uk"><U><IMG SRC="24d1931a0.png" border=0 width="147" height="26" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="429" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 19 WIDTH="425"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="1x1.gif" HEIGHT="19" ALIGN="bottom" WIDTH="425" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id931.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="114629d60.jpg" border=0 width="297" height="214" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Hoxton N1 (The Unicorn)</B></div> <div> Empty but probably not for long in this upwardly mobile area</div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id945.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><I><IMG SRC="12fc1ae10.jpg" border=0 width="282" height="225" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></I></U></A></div> <div> <B>Kentish Town NW5 (The Abbey Tavern)</B></div> <div> Now reopened - now classed as a gastropub in</div> <div> some quarters I believe.</div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1454.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Beaconsfield Bermondsey"><U><B><IMG SRC="1e9621f30.jpg" border=0 width="289" height="243" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B> Upper Holloway N19 (The Hanley Arms)</B></div> <div> John writes: <I>"the licensee during the 60s and I think 70s was one of the Compton brothers of cricketing fame</I></div> <div> <I>not sure whether it was Denis or Lesley we used to have a couple of pints in there and then go a bit further </I></div> <div> <I>up the road and have pie and mash"</I></div> <bR> <div> Ian writes:<I> "This used to be a lovely pub with a wonderful ornate late Victorian fire surround and sparkling engraved</I></div> <div> <I>glass all around the walls. I've no idea where it all went and the only current sign of the pubs past glory is the</I></div> <div> <I>decorative wrought iron surrounding the entrance and above the fascia, what a shame.I remember going in there</I></div> <div> <I>a few years ago and was shocked to see that the glass had all disappeared and had been replaced with flock wall </I></div> <div> <I>paper. It's not my local but I used to go to the art school at the top of the hill and have the occasional pint there on the</I></div> <div> <I>way home. Very enjoyable environment to drink in then. He told me that he'd got the pub redecorated in exchange for</I></div> <div> <I>the glass, or at least I think that's what he said. He seemed quite satisfied with the deal. God knows where it's all </I></div> <div> <I>gone, beautiful stuff. I live in Holloway and have lived there for years and I'm quite amused at the new names given</I></div> <div> <I>to areas like these: Crouch End Village, Crouch End Heights. I remember reading an article a few months ago from</I></div> <div> <I>someone who lives in Gravesend, he said some places wear their names around their necks like a stone: Wormwood</I></div> <div> <I>Scrubs, Pentonville, Holloway. I wonder how they'll muck around with Holloway when they get round to it, Holloway Bay,</I></div> <div> <I>Lower Holloway Sands, Great North Avenue and so on maybe. The Globe Hotel opposite the Sobell has gone too, </I></div> <div> <I>another great pub in its day. What I liked best about it was the heated foot rail at the bar. Wonderful on wet and cold </I></div> <div> <I>evenings."</I></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1322.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="28a24bf80.jpg" border=0 width="331" height="248" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Edmonton N18 (The Two Brewers)</B></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1322.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><IMG SRC="28a04cf90.jpg" border=0 width="332" height="249" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> <div> <B>Edmonton N18 (Pymmes Park Inn)</B></div> <div> Jan writes:<I> "</I><I><B>Bruce Forsyth</B></I><I> used to use it, the last time was when he came back to Edmonton for his </I></div> <div> <I>sisters funeral, all the family and friends went back there for drinks and buffet."</I></div> <bR> <div> Ciaran writes: <I>"Of all the pubs to have closed down in North London this has to be one of the saddest </I></div> <div> <I>for me. I used to love this pub. It was situated just off Edmonton High Street, near Pymmes Park and </I></div> <div> <I>was a great family pub. I used to go there when I was a kid with my dad, who used to take me over the</I></div> <div> <I>park to play football on a Sunday and afterwards go for a pint. I remember he bought me a tomato juice</I></div> <div> <I>there once and I remember it tasting foul. I used to take my first girlfriend there too and it was quite a </I></div> <div> <I>respectable pub in its day. There were loads of regulars there too and it was here that I first tasted </I></div> <div> <I>Stella - big mistake."</I></div> <bR> <div> Louise writes:<I> "Now boarded up around the outside you can no longer cut across the front of it, like </I></div> <div> <I>it shows in your pic. Good pub, Great karaoke evenings, but bad rep for drugdealers hanging round, </I></div> <div> <I>always being raided, i heard that it was a drug raid was why it closed down."</I></div> <bR> <div> Roger in Houston, Texas writes:<I> "Oh ****, not the Pymmes Park Inn. Not far along the road to the </I></div> <div> <I>north is Latymer Grammar School. We used to get out of there and head to the PPI. Turn blazer </I></div> <div> <I>inside out, remove ties and, for the girls, roll them up (we are talking the sixties here). Many a </I></div> <div> <I>wonderful New Years Eve was spent here. It was but a short walk under way the railway bridge </I></div> <div> <I>to the bus stop and a late trip home. Just great days. Brings tears to me eyes it does."</I></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1322.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="28a848f60.jpg" border=0 width="328" height="246" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>New Southgate N11 (The Lawrence)</B></div> <bR> <div> <A HREF="id1323.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="_"><U><B><IMG SRC="2995bcfa0.jpg" border=0 width="188" height="250" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <div> <B>Belsize Village NW3 (unknown)</B></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="2c6bfabb0.jpg" border=0 width="250" height="187" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"> <IMG SRC="2c67fabb0.jpg" border=0 width="250" height="187" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>Camden Town NW1 - The Hawley Arms (front and back view)</B></div> <div> Just before the great fire of Camden this pub was a great packed boozer. A loud jukebox, great photos of bands on</div> <div> the walls and was a haunt of Amy Winehouse, Kate Moss and the resulting media scrum outside.I remember this</div> <div> pub </div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="2d682ce10.jpg" border=0 width="300" height="225" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>Camden Town NW1 - The Prince Alfred</B></div> <div> This pub had a bad reputation.....</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="pubs___derelict_london.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Pubs Derelict London"><U><IMG SRC="2d89aa2d0.gif" border=0 width="170" height="45" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></div> </td> </tr></table></body>